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July 2009 
US Army Deserter is Being Deported from Canada!
Posted on Aug 14th, 2008
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Gemstar
Gemstar
Cross-posted from my post on the Canada Pod, so possibly more of our US friends will see it.
Here is the head-line URL link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080813/ap_on_re_ca/canada_war_deserter_1
"Jeremy Hinzman, 29, is likely to be court-martialed when he returns to the United States and could face up to five years in prison. Hinzman said Canada's Border Services Agency ordered him to leave the country by Sept. 23 and he would be handed over to U.S. authorities.
Before he fled Fort Bragg, N.C., in January 2004, Hinzman had already served a tour of duty with the 82nd Airborne Division in Afghanistan. He served in a non-combat position because before his unit left in 2002, he applied for conscientious objector status."
As a Canadian who has never supported the idiot notion of the Iraq War, I am incensed that our Canadian government is doing this to this man, and potentially other "conscientious objectors" as well. Who the hell does Prime Minister Harper think he is (God maybe?) that he can decide on this man's fate? During the Vietnam war thousands of "objectors" fled to Canada to avoid the draft. But that was when the Liberals were in power, and we didn't have people like Harper kiss-assing up to the Idiot Prince Bush.
Well, the US doesn't even have a "draft" now, and this man has already served one tour of duty away from family (In Afphanistan), so given the population of the United States, you'd think there'd be plenty of other men eligible (and probably quite willing) to go in his place!!!
Yeah, I know - our guys and gals are doing two and three tours in Afghanistan (if they live that long!), which is a whole other thorn in my side, given I have two grandsons that are nearing the age of being drafted, if that ever comes about. One of them probably wouldn't qualify medically because of poor vision, but the other would probably volunteer - want's to be a police officer (which in these greater Toronto neck of the woods is probably almost as dangerous!). A good friend of mine lost his brother to a suicide bombers efforts 10 days before he was to return to Canada and retire! He had served Canada for twenty years - and was getting ready to come home, get married and perhaps start a family.
My heart goes out to all of the families, loved ones and friends of ALL of the brave men and women who are serving in Canada's armed forces, and/or who have lost someone because of the leaders who fight the wars from their office HIGH chairs. I completely support our men and women who are out there trying to make a difference, as hard as that is. BUT I also support the right of ANYONE - Canadian or American, who decides they object to this insane squabbling, and doesn't want to participate in it.
I'd like to hear some Canadian voices raised in major objection to this man's deportation. Contact your MP's and MPP's - and definitely write to Prime Minister Harper (he who was so scared of his ass that he wouldn't even go to Bejing!) and let him know that once the White House has been cleaned of the vermin now occupying it, perhaps Canadians will do a similar house-cleaning on Parliament Hill! It won't be too soon, for my liking.
In absolute and utter disgust with the politicians of our two countries!!!
Gem
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G'day Gemstar,
I think if a person signs up in the military his expections are that he life will be less personal freedom and more mega order taking. I presume this person signed up. I don't have TV but I think I would have heard if our politicians were pushing for the draft.
Hi Goddess:
Well, no one said he was drafted, however, after having served one tour of duty in Afghanistan, you'd think with the over 300 million people in the USA, supposedly around half of them male, that someone else could step up to the plate. It isn't so much the US policies that I'm hammering on here (although I really think the whole world would have been a lot safer had GWB lost both of the last two elections in the States), but rather the knee-jerk kiss-ass attitude of our own Canadian government, and just how that looks on the world front. We have always opened our doors (sometimes regretably) to the oppressed of the world, and that a man could be court-martialed and jailed for God knows how long just because he objects to fighting in, or even participating in any way in this war mission to bring “democracy” Bush-style to Iraq, is certainly anything but democratic, in any sense of the word, coming from two countries who give lip-service to that supposed “ideal”.
Hola Gemstar from the other border…..
People who sign up in the military need to understand what they are signing up for. The military is not a democratic process that flexes and bends at will.
I stand for global, blissful transformation as such living love and peace are my highest priorities.
UPDATE - September 24, 2008:
Today it was reported by the Associated Press that: “(Canadian) Federal Court Judge Richard Mosley ruled Jeremy Hinzman can stay in Canada while the court decides whether he can appeal his deportation order. ……
In his three-page ruling, Mosley wrote, “Based on the evidence and submissions before me, I am satisfied that the applicants would suffer irreparable harm if a stay were not granted.” ”
It's a good first step…. let's hope it sets a precedence!
hey, we might all end up in Canada….swapping beads and shells for food and shelter……
Speaking of beads and shells………… (thanks J.Goddess!!!) ;)
I know it would probably surprise many people in the USA to know that what they'd thought they'd been using as real money has all along been the equivalent of Monopoly Game money. The US government many years ago took the USA off the “gold standard” and printed money, supposedly based on the worth of what the country owned in gold. But since it has twice, and now looking at three times over the last 50 to 60 odd years, used the same tactic of bailing out the stock market and/or large financial institutions, the value of that dollar really isn't even close to what it supposedly trades for on the world market.
Actually, President Bushes' first hunch of letting the markets correct themselves may have been the harder pill to take, but it would probably have been the cure, rather than a band-aid, for what ails the economy, world-wide. People would have had to start cooperating and sharing globally, in order to survive. But he couldn't bear to see the sad faces of his wealthy buddies, as they pleaded with him to keep their nests well-feathered.
Doesn't anyone south of the Great Lakes see a bit of sad irony in the fact that the Feds will find all of this money (through your taxes, of course) to bail these financial urchins out, while at the same time, they cannot come up with a decent medicare plan, or shelter plan for those who cannot earn enough to put a roof over their heads? Topping that, they'll ask you to pay for this bailout, through yours' and your childrens' taxes (while you are also still paying for the bailout they dumped on YOUR parents taxes in the 1980's). In the end, it's all “spin” anyways, because the “money” to pay the taxes isn't really real. But if enough people actually knew that, and followed the blood-lines (or should I say blood-hounds) back to where all of this started, I'm sure quite a few of the wealthiest houses in the world would be crumbling into their wine-cellars.
And as the “cherry” on top, they'll probably, in the end, cave in to allowing the CEO's and Directors of these failed companies to cash in on their “golden parachutes”, also on your tax-dollar-plate. They're thieves - out-and-out thieves!!!! But they'll come out of this almost virtually financially intact.
The ultimate irony, though, is they have already spent an equal amount on wars that didn't need to happen, in Iraq and Afghanistan, gutting the country of some of its best young wage earners, leaving their families (parents, wives and children) to pick up that tab, too.
So, today as Mercury goes retro-grade - with all that entails about mis-communication, and things that follow Murphy's law to the letter happen, the USA is about to embark on either creating the slave nation they have always (at the core of its foundation) dreamed of, or creating a large enough economic maelstrom that (what I've been predicting now for well over a year, if you've been listening) Mr. Bush could potentially cancel the elections and remain in power. It's a well executed Catch-22, because either way, the big money wins and the little guy loses.
This is why, if there is any way that even one young man (and his family) can be saved from being deported because he opposed (conscientious or otherwise) such tyranny, I'm definitely in line to say “Welcome Home” to Canada! And hopefully, we can throw Bushes clone (Harper) out on his butt shortly, so our economy doesn't follow the same ill-fated path.
(and I suppose about now would be a good time for me to go out and buy some extra life insurance - but it certainly won't be from AIG ;) )
I am hoping we all wake up and say NO….to THIS TERROR, quickly….. It's serfdom 21st centrury style We are destroying ourselves, fearing others whilst the destruction was spawning from within.